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First of all, I am do math only for fun, and I am only amateur, so excuse me because of my lack on knowledge in this field. I was curious about some answers and I want to know if my judgment was ok or wrong. First I wanted to find out the answer of: $$i^j$$ (where $i^2=-1, j^2=1, j≠-1, j≠1$), j is split complex number $$j^j$$ $$j^i$$

Maybe I was wrong to combine complex number with split numbers. I don’t know. Please let me know If my calculus is ok or there are some mistakes in it.

Thank you.

First: $$\ln(j)$$ I use the formula for logarithm of split complex numbers: $$\ln (a + bj) = ½ (\ln ((a + b)(a - b)) + ½ j( \ln (a + b)/(a-b))$$

I know that $(a + b)(a - b) < 0$, we will get a complex number in our answer and that that the split complex logarithm is not closed. Of course for all formulas I take into consideration only the principal branch.

So: $$Ln(j)= ½((\ln (0+1)(0-1))+1/2 j (\ln (0+1)/(0-1))$$ $$=1/2 \ln (-1) + ½ j \ln (-1)$$ $$= ½ (i \pi ) +1/2 j ( i \pi)$$

BUT, when I wanted to verify I am correct I discover that, the answer $ ½ (i \pi ) +1/2 j ( i \pi)$ is actually $\ln(-j)$.

I also discover that are at least two correct answer for $\ln(j)$ and for $\ln(-j)$.

Ex. for $\ln(j)$ : $$Ln(j)=i\pi/2 – j i\pi/2$$ and $$Ln(j)=-i\pi/2 + j i\pi/2$$

Proof: $$e^{i\pi/2–ji\pi/2}$$

$$=(e^{i\pi/2})*(\cosh(-i\pi/2)+j\sinh(-i\pi/2))$$

$$=(e^{i\pi/2})(0 -ij)$$

$$=(-ij)e^{i\pi/2})$$

$$=(-ij)(\cos(\pi/2)+i\sin(\pi/2)$$

$$=-iji=j$$

I hope is nothing wrong in my calculus.

So $$j^j=e^{j\ln(j)}$$

$$=$$

1) $$e^{(i\pi/2–ji\pi/2)j}=e^{ji\pi/2–i\pi/2}=-j$$

$$=e^{(-i\pi/2)}(cosh(i\pi/2)+jsinh(I\pi/2)) =e^{(-i\pi/2)}(0-ij)=-ij(cos(-\pi/2)+isin(-\pi/2))=-ij(0-1i)=-j$$

2) $$e^{(-i\pi/2+ji\pi/2)j}= e^{-ji\pi/2+i\pi/2}=-j$$ because $$Ln(j)=i\pi/2 – j i\pi/2$$ and $$Ln(j)=-i\pi/2 + j i\pi/2$$

$$=e^{(i\pi/2)}(cosh(-I\pi/2)+jsinh(-i\pi/2))= e^{(i\pi/2)}(0+ij) =ij(cos(\pi/2)+isin(\pi/2))=ij(0+1i)=-j$$

So... $$j^j=-j$$.... Am I wright?

$$Ln(i)= i\pi/2$$

$$j^i=e^{(ilnj)}$$

1) $$e^{(i\pi/2 – j i\pi/2)i}=e^{-\pi/2 + j pi/2}= (e^{-\pi/2})(\cosh (\pi/2)+ j \sinh (\pi/2))$$

$$=0.521606...+j0.478393...$$

2) $$e^{(-i\pi/2 + j i\pi/2)i}= e^{i\pi/2 - i\pi/2} = (e^{\pi/2})(\cosh (-\pi/2)+ j \sinh (-\pi/2))$$

$$=12.070346...-j11.070346$$

Am I wright?

$$i^j$$ $$=e^{ji\pi/2}$$

$=\cosh(i\pi/2)+j(\sinh(i\pi/2)$

$=0+j*i$

So ... $i^j=ij$.... Am I right?

Proof:

$i^j=ij$

$$jlni=ln(ij)$$

$$ln(ij)=1/2(ln (0+i)(0-i)) +1/2j ((ln (0+i)/(0-i))$$

$$ln(ij)=1/2ln1 +1/2j ln (-1)$$

$$ln(ij)= (ipi/2)j$$

$$jlni=ln(ij)$$

$$j(ipi/2)=(ipi/2)j$$

Is it possible to find $ln(i+j)$? Cand I find $\ln(i+j+\varepsilon)$, where $\varepsilon^2=0$, with $\varepsilon \neq 0$?

Thank you.

A.J.
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    If $j^2=1$, and $j\ne1$, and $j\ne-1$, then what is $j$? Certainly not a complex number. Also, your post will be much easier to read if you spend a little time learning about how to format mathematics here. Start with the Help menu. – Gerry Myerson Nov 15 '17 at 11:23
  • In any field, and thus certainly in $;\Bbb C;$ , we have that $;x^2=1\iff x=-1;;or;;x=1;$ . – DonAntonio Nov 15 '17 at 11:24
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    Practically I try to rise i from complex numbert to j from split complex number, j to j, and so on. Sorry that I wasn't explicit. –  Nov 15 '17 at 11:41
  • Radu, could you please improve your formatting? I did some work but it is still not so clear. – marco trevi Nov 15 '17 at 14:28
  • What do you mean by "split complex number"? – Gerry Myerson Nov 15 '17 at 22:01
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    I mean the numbers where is define a new number $$j^2=1$$ , and $$j≠1$$, and $$j≠−1$$ –  Nov 16 '17 at 07:01
  • OK, then how do you define arithmetic operations with this new number? – Ivan Neretin Nov 16 '17 at 09:42
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    @GerryMyerson https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Split-complex_number – lisyarus Nov 16 '17 at 09:53
  • I don't think it addresses your questions exactly, radu, but you might get something out of https://arxiv.org/pdf/math-ph/0507053.pdf – Gerry Myerson Nov 16 '17 at 11:51
  • Thanks. I will study it. I didn;t find yet, someone who combine hyperbolic numbers with complex number, and I was only curious about it. –  Nov 16 '17 at 12:36
  • Algebraically, I suppose it's just the ring ${\bf C}[x]/(x^2-1)$. – Gerry Myerson Nov 16 '17 at 21:14
  • You don't say this explicitly, but I gather from some of the computations that you mean for the $i$ and $j$ to commute, that is, to have $i j = j i$, and you use this to simplify products of three or more instances of $i$ and $j$. A sensible alternative is to denote $k := ij$ and declare $ji = -k$, $jk = -kj = -i$, $j = ki = -ik$. The resulting $\Bbb R$-algebra is called the split-quaternions, and perhaps surprisingly it is isomorphic to the algebra $M(2, \Bbb R)$ of $2 \times 2$ matrices. – Travis Willse Sep 06 '19 at 00:02
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    No, it's not about quaternions, it's about bicomplex numbers, where ij=ji by definition. Thanks. –  Dec 04 '19 at 11:02
  • I get $j^j=j$ with matrix representation of tessarines, and with 2x2 matrices also. – Anixx Mar 10 '21 at 12:01
  • The principal natural logarithm of j is defined as -$ipi/2 + ijpi/2$, implying it has multiple branches. – WawaWeegee Jun 29 '25 at 19:37

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Split-complex numbers can be represented as 2x2 matrices: $a+bj=\left( \begin{array}{cc} a & b \\ b & a \\ \end{array} \right)$.

So, $j^j=\left( \begin{array}{cc} 0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0 \\ \end{array} \right)^ \left( \begin{array}{cc} 0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0 \\ \end{array} \right)=\left( \begin{array}{cc} 0 & 1 \\ 1 & 0 \\ \end{array} \right)=j$

Verify it with Wolfram Alpha.

It seems you possibly made a mistake with sign.

The combination of complex and split-complex numbers is called tessarines, they can be represented as 2x2 matrices $a+bj=\left( \begin{array}{cc} a & b \\ b & a \\ \end{array} \right)$ with complex elements $a$ and $b$.

So, in tessarines, you are correct that $i^j=ij$. The $j^i$ is $\left(\frac{1}{2}-\frac{e^{-\pi }}{2}\right) j+\frac{e^{-\pi }}{2}+\frac{1}{2}$

Anixx
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  • Matrixes aren't always the most reliable way to explain a 2 dimensional set of numbers, especially in such an enigmatic number system as the split-complex numbers. – WawaWeegee Jun 29 '25 at 19:35