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If $x^2-30x+y^2-40y+576=0$, find the maximum value of $\dfrac xy$.

First I completed the squares and got $(x-15)^2+(y-20)^2=7^2$, which is the equation of a circle.

I think I need to use some properties but I don't know what to do next.

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    Try sketching the circle and considering lines that pass through both the circle and the origin. When is the gradient maximised and minimised? – Ben Martin Jan 08 '19 at 03:37
  • There are at least a few points on the circle with integer coordinates; for instance, 7 units straight up from the center, or right, or down, or left. Draw yourself a picture, find the ratios $x/y$ for those points. Actually, use a calculator and write in decimal approximations – Will Jagy Jan 08 '19 at 03:41
  • just so you know, no calculus is required. Given a correct drawing of the circle, the point of interest can be constructed with compass and straightedge – Will Jagy Jan 08 '19 at 03:57

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Using the (7,24,25) Pythagorean triangle in the diagram, I get the tangent point $$ \left( \frac{96}{5}, \frac{72}{5} \right) $$ and the maximum of $x/y$ on the circle as $4/3.$ enter image description here

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Will Jagy
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$x=15+7\cos2t,y=20+7\sin2t$

Use Weierstrass Substitution (https://proofwiki.org/wiki/Weierstrass_Substitution)

and Minimum value of given expression

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I used straight up calculus here to get the answer.

Let's start with the fact that the maximum point will have to satisfy the circle equation. So writing

$$x = 15 + \sqrt{49 - (y-20)^2}$$ We get the ratio as

$$R = \frac{15 + \sqrt{49 - (y-20)^2}}{y}$$

Differentiating this and setting to $0$ would give you a long and harrowing equation to solve which would result in this

$$625y^2 -23040y +202176=0$$ Solving this you'd get two values $y=22.464$ or $y=14.39999$

Checking the corresponding ratios(we ignore the negative values as they will only lower $x$ and hence cannot be a part of maxima). Between the two values and testing random values on the boundary of the circle, we conclude that the maximum is for $y=14.399999$, we get an $x=19.199999$ resulting in a ratio of

$$\frac xy = 1.3333$$

NOTE - I left out a lot of intermediary equation solving which is not difficult, just time consuming and complex. If you want I can add that as well

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An alternative method, uses calculus. Similar to Sauhard Sharma's answer.


First note, this is the equation of a circle centred on $(15,20)$ of radius $7$, so it does not reach the $x$ axis (otherwise you'd be able to get arbitrarily large values for $x/y$). The value of $x/y$ is obviously going to be maximised on the lower half of the circle, since these have lower values of $y$, with the same values of $x$ as the corresponding points in the upper half of the circle. So we can write $$y=20-\sqrt{49-(x-15)^2}$$

We want to maximise $$f=\frac xy=\frac{x}{20-\sqrt{49-(x-15)^2}}$$ The range of $x$ is $[8,22]$. First we can check if this function has any maxima (or equivalently, if its reciprocal has a minimum).

$$\frac{d(1/f)}{dx}=\frac{d}{dx}\left(\frac{20}x-\sqrt{\frac{49}{x^2}-\left(1-\frac{15}x\right)^2}\right)=0\\-\frac{20}{x^2}-\frac12\left(-\frac{49\cdot2}{x^3}-2\left(1-\frac{15}x\right)\left(\frac{15}{x^2}\right)\right)\left(\frac{49}{x^2}-\left(1-\frac{15}x\right)^2\right)^{-1/2}=0\\\left(\frac{49}{x^3}+\frac{15}{x^2}-\frac{225}{x^3}\right)^2=\frac{400}{x^4}\left(\frac{49}{x^2}-1+\frac{30}{x}-\frac{225}{x^2}\right)\\\left(15x-176\right)^2=400\left(-x^2+{30}x-176\right)\\625x^2-17280x+101396=0$$This has solutions $$x_\pm=\frac{1728}{125}\pm\frac{2\sqrt{112771}}{125}$$ To maximise $x/y$, we choose the largest value of $x$, giving $x_+=19.197\dots$, which corresponds to $y=14.3977\dots$. This gives $$\frac xy=1.3333\dots\approx\frac43$$

John Doe
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1)Circle $(x-15)^2+(y-20)^2=7^2;$

Maximum of $C:= x/y:$

2) Line $y=(1/C)x = mx$ , where $m= 1/C$.

Minimize $m$(m >0 , why?)

There are 2 tangents to the circle that pass through origin.

Distance formula (point to line):

$ \left | \dfrac{-m(15)+ 1(20)}{\sqrt{m^2+1}}\right |=7.$

Quadratic equation in $m$.

Use the smaller solution $m$ to get $C_{max} (=1/m).$

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Distance_from_a_point_to_a_line

Peter Szilas
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Let $\frac{x}{y}=k$.

Thus, $x=ky$ and the equation $$k^2y^2-30ky+y^2-40y+576=0$$ or $$(k^2+1)y^2-2(15k+20)y+576=0$$ has real roots, which says that the discriminant must be non-negative.

Id est, $$(15k+20)^2-576(k^2+1)\geq0$$ or $$351k^2-600k+176\leq0$$ or $$\frac{44}{117}\leq k\leq\frac{4}{3}.$$ The value $\frac{4}{3}$ occurs for $$y=\frac{15k+20}{k^2+1}=14.4$$ and $$x=14.4\cdot\frac{4}{3}=19.2,$$ which says that $\frac{4}{3}$ is a maximal value.