On Hilton and Stammbach's homological algebra book, end of chap. 2, they wrote in general $F(\mathfrak{C})$ is not a category at all in general. But I don't quite get it. I checked the axioms of a category for the image, and I think they are all satisfied. Am I missing something? Thanks.
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12Now I see what I was missing is that morphisms previously unable to composite can composite after the functor. – Anonymous Coward Jun 06 '13 at 16:43
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I don't understand this. The "naive image" is just a collection of objects, and therefore can be regarded as a full subcategory. You can only restrict to morphisms which are induced by the functor. But again this is a subcategory. – Martin Brandenburg Jun 07 '13 at 10:17
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3@MartinBrandenburg: the concept you are describing seems to be called "full image" on nCatLab: http://ncatlab.org/nlab/show/full+image. – Blaisorblade Sep 17 '14 at 00:50
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Consider the category $C$ with four objects, $a,b,c,d$ and, other than identity arrows, a single arrow $a\to b$ and a single arrow $c\to d$. Now consider the category $D$ with three objects $x,y,z$, and, aside from identity arrows, the arrows $x\to y$, $y\to z$, and $x\to z$. Now, consider the functor $F:C\to D$ with $F(a)=x$, $F(b)=F(c)=y$, and $F(d)=z$ (extended uniquely to arrows). Its image is not a category.
This business is related to the fact that epis in $Cat$ are not so simple at all. In work of Isbell epis in $Cat$ are characterized. It's worth noting that regular epis, split epis, etc. in $Cat$ are quite different, attesting again to the subtlety of epis.
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Can you add the specific paper where Isbell classifies the epis? – Martin Brandenburg Nov 11 '24 at 22:19
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@MartinBrandenburg If I'm not mistaken, Epimorphisms and Dominions III, Amer. J. Math 90 (1968) 1025-1030, MR0237596 (38 #5877). – Arturo Magidin Nov 11 '24 at 22:37
Drawing a picture of Ittay Weiss's answer:
\begin{align*} a \underset{f}{\longrightarrow}\, &b \\ &c \underset{g}{\longrightarrow} d \\ \\ &\Big{\downarrow}F \\ \\ x \underset{F(f)}{\longrightarrow}\,&y \underset{F(g)}{\longrightarrow} z \end{align*}
Here, the objects of the image are $x$, $y$, and $z$, and the arrows are $F(f)$ and $F(g)$. Categories are closed under composition of arrows, but $F(g)F(f)$ is not in the image of $F$ (there are no arrows $a \to d$), so the image of $F$ cannot be a category.
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There are two questions:
- Is the image of a functor always a category?
The answer is Yes.
- If $F : \mathcal{C} \to \mathcal{D}$ is a functor, is the set of objects $F(\mathrm{Ob}(\mathcal{C}))$ together with the hom-sets $\hom(u,v) = \{F(f) : x,y \in \mathrm{Ob}(\mathcal{C}), \,u = F(x), \, v = F(y), f \in \hom(x,y)\}$ a subcategory of $\mathcal{D}$?
The answer is No.
In particular since we are in the context of category theory, we should use the notion of the image of a morphism and not apply any ad-hoc construction which typically ignores some structure (see my remark about forgetful functors below). We may apply this notion to the category of all categories $\mathbf{Cat}$ as well*, and see that the image of a functor $F : \mathcal{C} \to \mathcal{D}$ is the smallest subcategory of $\mathcal{D}$ through which $F$ factors. It always exists, and by definition it is a subcategory of $\mathcal{D}$.
Specifically, the objects of $\mathrm{im}(F)$ are the objects of the form $F(x)$ for $x \in \mathrm{Ob}(\mathcal{C})$, and a morphism $u \to v$ is a composition of morphisms $ u = u_1 \to u_2 \to \cdots \to u_n = v$, where each $u_i \to u_{i+1}$ has the form $F(f) : F(x) \to F(y)$ for some morphism $f : x \to y$ in $\mathcal{C}$.
This answers the first question. Ittay's example answers the second question, and it shows that setting $n=1$ above is not enough. The functor $F : \mathcal{C} \to \mathcal{D}$ in Ittay's example actually satisfies $\mathrm{im}(F) = \mathcal{D}$, and it is an epimorphism, so that it is an extremal epimorphism.
Somewhat similar, notice that the category $\mathbf{CompMet}$ of complete metric spaces has images, but they should not be confused with the images of the underlying maps of sets, because the forgetful functor $U : \mathbf{CompMet} \to \mathbf{Set}$ does not preserve images. Likewise, Ittay's example shows that the forgetful functor $\mathbf{Cat} \to \mathbf{Quiv}$ to the category of quivers (that forgets identities and compositions) does not preserve images, because what is written in 2. above is exactly how to construct images in $\mathbf{Quiv}$.
*Here, $\mathcal{U}$ is a fixed Grothendieck universe, and $\mathbf{Cat}$ is a shorthand for $\mathbf{Cat}_U$, the category of all $\mathcal{U}$-categories. We cannot possibly form the category of all categories in a literal sense.
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For clarity, does "CatWithoutComp" stand for "without composition"? Meaning categories without morphisms other than identities? – Milten Nov 11 '24 at 20:54
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No. It stands for the category of directed multigraphs (quivers), sometimes just called "graphs" in the category theory community. We have objects and morphisms, but no operations. – Martin Brandenburg Nov 11 '24 at 21:00
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I see, of course, thank you. So Comp still stands for composition then? – Milten Nov 11 '24 at 21:26
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1Yes, sorry. You were basically right. I have also edited the post now which makes it clearer I hope. – Martin Brandenburg Nov 11 '24 at 22:26
Take $\mathcal C=\mathbf{Grp}$ the category of groups, $\mathcal D=\mathbf{Set}$ the category of sets, and $T$ the forgetful functor
Cite Mathworld entry faithful functor:
the forgetful functor from the category of groups to the category of sets is faithful, but it identifies non-isomorphic groups having the same underlying set
- $G_0$ be the group on $\{a,b\},aa=bb=a,ab=ba=b$
- $G_1$ be the group on $\{a,b\},aa=bb=b,ab=ba=a$
Consider the group isomorphisms
$$ f:G_0\to(\mathbb Z/2,+)\quad a\mapsto0\quad b\mapsto1 $$ $$ g:(\mathbb Z/2,+)\to G_1\quad 0\mapsto b\quad 1\mapsto a $$ Then $$ T(f) : \{a,b\}\to\{0,1\}\quad T(f)(a)=0\quad T(f)(b)=1 $$ $$ T(g) : \{0,1\}\to\{a,b\}\quad T(g)(0)=b\quad T(g)(1)=a $$ as functions of sets.
In $\mathbf{Set}$ we can compose them:$$T(g)\circ T(f):\{a,b\}\to\{a,b\}\quad a\mapsto b\quad b\mapsto a$$ For $\operatorname{Im}T$ to be a category, this composite must again be a morphism in $\operatorname{Im}T$; but it is not equal to $T(h)$ for any group homomorphism $h$ because $h$ must send the identity of the group to itself.
So $\operatorname{Im}T$ is not a category.
If the object function of $T$ is injective, then $\operatorname{Im}T$ is a category
Proof
Assume $T$ is injective on objects. Take morphisms in $\operatorname{Im}T$
$$ T(f):T(C)\to T(C'), \qquad T(g):T(C')\to T(C'') $$
(where the middle really is the same object since $T$ is injective on objects). Then the composite in $\mathcal D$ is
$$ T(g)\circ T(f) = T(g\circ f), $$
which is again in $\operatorname{Im}T$. Identities are there because $T(\mathrm{id}_C)=\mathrm{id}_{T(C)}$. Thus $\operatorname{Im}T$ is closed under identities and composition and is therefore a category.
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