A naive question about Edward Nelson's ultrafinitistic way of reasoning arising from reading this discussion:
Say we start with setup $F$ being a formal system by adjoining an unary predicate symbol $\psi$, imposing the axiom $\psi(0)$, and following rule of inference: from $\rm\psi(a)$ infer $\rm\psi(Sa)$ (for any term $a$ in $F$). (... as notation suggests the underlying language includes symbol $0$ and succession function $S$)
Nelson stresses that using this inference rule its not possible to proof that the proposition $\psi(80^{5000})$ would be actually a theorem of $F$?
More precisely, in a comment below his answer he stated that the key issue behind this phenomenon that altough in "ordinary" language/formal system (including implementation of arithmetiation ) the theorem $\exists p[p$ is an arithmetized proof in F of $\psi(80^{5000})]$ is doubtless true.
But that reasoning cannot be expressed in $F$.
Question: Could somebody elaborate the point stated in last sentence, ie why one can't formulate a correct proof inside $F$?
(If the question is too vague, let go a step back. Can it be made precise in which sense reasoningexpressible in $F$ substantially differs from reasoning in arithmetized $F$?)
My naive guess up now (but not sure if that's the key problem): Does it have exclusively to do with lack of internal proof (so inside $F$!) that $80^{5000}$ is actually finite?
If we would be able prove the later, then we could simply iterate application of successor function $S$ to $0$ exactly $80^{5000}$ times and exploiting the given rule of inference. If I'm not missing something, this would give a correct proof inside $F$, right? Or is the problem a bit more subtle ...as ultrafinitists usually abandon not only infinities, but also finite, but "big" numbers)
(Of course, if we a priori not know within the formal system that $80^{5000}$ is finite, we cannot apply this argument. )
Is this the key problem behind non existence of proof of claim $\psi(80^{5000})]$ Nelson refered to? In other words, the inability to produce a formal proof in $F$ seems to depend only on potential inability to proof internally that $80^{5000}$ is finite without running is circularity making unavoidably use of invoking implicitly finiteness phrased in terms of "classical" natural numbers?