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I am a bit uncomfortable with the habit of writing $$f(z)=u(x,y)+i v(x,y)$$ where $f:U\subseteq \mathbb C \to \mathbb C$ is a complex function and $z=x+iy$. This is especially done when Cauchy-Riemann equations and harmonic functions are introduced. The issue is that I think authors switch from subsets of $\mathbb C$ to $\mathbb R^2$ ad vice-versa improperly.

For example, in Theorem VIII, $2.2$ of his book "Complex Analysis", Conway writes that the connected and open set $G\subseteq \mathbb C$ is simply connected if and only if every harmonic function $u: G\to \mathbb C$ has a harmonic conjugate, i.e. there is another harmonic function $v: G\to \mathbb C$ such that $f=u+iv$ is holomorphic in $G$.

This approach does not convince me, because for a function to be harmonic one should be able to perform derivatives with respect to $x$ and $y$, so should consider a function of two real variables.

This also makes me question about Wirtinger derivatives $$\frac{\partial}{\partial z}=\frac{\partial}{\partial x}-i\frac{\partial}{\partial y} \\ \frac{\partial}{\partial \bar z}=\frac{\partial}{\partial x}+i\frac{\partial}{\partial y}$$ because this would be appropriate for a function of the three variables $x,y,z$.

Here we discussed the meaning of $\partial/\partial \bar z$ and it looks to me that it is only a trick that works.

How can one be more rigorous? I thought we could introduce a set $\tilde G=\{(x,y) \in \mathbb R^2: z=x+iy \in G\}$ and define $u,v$ there. Is there another approach, perhaps more frequent in literature?

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    as sets $\mathbb{C} = \mathbb{R}^2$ (at least with the most common definition) so i dont really understand your problem here. For example the set $\tilde{G}$ is just $G$ itself. Of course $i := (0,1)$ and we just supress the $(1,0)$ usually, i.e. $3+5i$ is actually $3(1,0) + 5(0,1) = (3,5)$. – jd27 Sep 05 '25 at 15:15
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    You can just replace $x,y$ with $\operatorname{Re}(z)$ and $\operatorname{Im}(z).$ It dooesn't risk a lot of misunderstanding, and it doesn't rreally persist through the rest of complex analysis. – Thomas Andrews Sep 05 '25 at 15:20
  • @jd27 I am not sure it is safe to say that $G$ is exactly $\tilde G$, I'd say it's more an identification, but still they are different objects (the elements of $\tilde G$ are ordered couples, while those of $G$ are not) – Davide Masi Sep 05 '25 at 15:23
  • @DavideMasi how are elements of $G$ not ordered tuples of real numbers (since as sets $\mathbb{C}= \mathbb{R}^2$)? If you have some other definition of $\mathbb{C}$ then you need to add it to the question. – jd27 Sep 05 '25 at 15:33
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    @jd27 well, I think the same about $\mathbb C$ and $\mathbb R^2$ - if $x,y$ are real numbers, then $x+iy \in \mathbb C$ while $(x,y) \in \mathbb R^2$ – Davide Masi Sep 05 '25 at 15:37
  • @DavideMasi but $x+iy = (x,y)$ – jd27 Sep 05 '25 at 15:38
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    @jd27 this is what I called "the identification" before – Davide Masi Sep 05 '25 at 15:39
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    I feel like its a bit of "overformalisatiom", Making it more formal doesn't really change anything. But the fact it annoyed you enough to post a question about this might mean you need to take a step back, because such things are done all the time in math. So I think it will be better to not try to fomalise it for your mental health and fun of math. – RT1 Sep 05 '25 at 15:40
  • @RT1 I guess it is - and thanks for the suggestion :) – Davide Masi Sep 05 '25 at 15:41
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    You should prove that the total derivative as a map $\mathbb{R}^2 \to \mathbb{R}^2$ must satisfy the Cauchy-Riemann equations just like the complex numbers do. The approach Conway is using is the usual approach so I think it makes more sense for you to try and understand it rather than replace it. – CyclotomicField Sep 05 '25 at 15:53

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There are a lot of "standard embeddings" in mathematics which we use to make "identifications", such as:

$\mathbb N$ embedded into $\mathbb Z$ embedded into $\mathbb Q$ embedded into $\mathbb R$ embedded into $\mathbb C$.

Your objections regarding the last embedding of this sequence would probably apply as well to the earlier ones. The objections in those cases would be even more serious if one stuck to the most formal definitions. For instance, an element of $\mathbb R$ is an equivalence class of Cauchy sequences of rational numbers... (which is a lot more complicated than regarding an element of $\mathbb C$ as an ordered pair of elements of $\mathbb R$...)

... but to force oneself to always think about an element of $\mathbb R$ like that? That way lies madness.

So, for these most important of all embeddings, what the mathematical community does to stay sane is something like this.

Formally, $\mathbb N$ is defined in set theory using the Von Neumann definition of natural number.

Next, $\mathbb Z$ is defined in terms of $\mathbb N$ [as equivalence classes of ordered pairs of natural numbers, using the equivalence relation $(a,b) \sim (c,d) \iff a+d=c+b$]. We then use the standard embedding of $\mathbb N$ into $\mathbb Z$ [using $n \mapsto (n,0)$]. Finally we as a community agree to conveniently forget about that embedding and to treat $\mathbb N$ as a subset of $\mathbb Z$.

Next, $\mathbb Q$ is defined in terms of $\mathbb Z$ [details elided], and then we use a standard embedding of $\mathbb Z$ into $\mathbb Q$ [more details elided], and then we as a community agree to conveniently forget about the embedding and to treat $\mathbb Z$ (and hence also $\mathbb N$) as a subset of $\mathbb Q$.

And the same for the next two embeddings of $\mathbb Q$ into $\mathbb R$, and of $\mathbb R$ into $\mathbb C$.

In the end, the outcome is that we, as a community, agree to treat $\mathbb N$ as a subset of $\mathbb Z$ which is a subset of $\mathbb Q$ which is a subset of $\mathbb R$ which is a subset of $\mathbb C$. Every now and then it is good to remind ourselves of the formalities of the definitions and of the embeddings... and then to once again re-forget those formalities.

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    This is what I didn't know I was waiting for. Thanks! – Davide Masi Sep 05 '25 at 15:56
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    One could argue that this answer confuses "constructions" or "proofs of existence" with "definitions". The ring of integers $\mathbb{Z}$ is uiniversal for homomorphisms from the semi-ring $\mathbb{N}$ to rings. The field of rationals $\mathbb{Q}$ is universal for injective homomorphisms from the ring $\mathbb{Z}$ to fields. The field of reals $\mathbb{R}$ is universal for field homomorphisms from $\mathbb{Q}$ to complete fields (w.r.t. the usual norm on $\mathbb{Q}$). The field $\mathbb{C}$ is universal for field homomorphisms from $\mathbb{R}$ to a field where $-1$ is a square. – Kapil Sep 06 '25 at 04:27
  • ... In particular, not only are there embeddings as you describe, these are unique upto canonical isomorphisms. That is what allows us to make the identifications. – Kapil Sep 06 '25 at 04:27
  • I just realised that the last inclusion (of $\mathbb{R}$ into $\mathbb{C}$) is not unique upto canonical isomorphism! There is complex conjugation. – Kapil Sep 06 '25 at 04:36
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From the formal point of view there is indeed an irresolvable conflict.

Let $U \subset \mathbb C$.

  1. Writing a function $\phi : U \to \mathbb K$, where $\mathbb K = \mathbb R, \mathbb C$, in the form $\phi(x,y)$ only makes sense if we understand $\mathbb C$ as $\mathbb R^2$.

  2. Writing $f : U \to \mathbb C$ in the form $f = u + iv$ with $u, v : U \to \mathbb R$ only makes sense if we regard $\mathbb R$ as a genuine subset of $\mathbb C$.
    This is an absolutely legit approach; see Lee Mosher's answer.

But $\mathbb R \subset\mathbb C$ and $\mathbb C = \mathbb R^2$ cannot be true at the same time.

Therefore it is an abuse of notation to write 2. in the form $f(z)=u(x,y)+i v(x,y)$.

Let us write $\mathbb C_1$ for the $\mathbb R \subset\mathbb C$ interpretation and $\mathbb C_2$ for the $\mathbb C = \mathbb R^2$ interpretation. These are isomorphic fields, but technically they are distinct models of the complex numbers. The above conflict is due to the fact that $\mathbb C_1 \ne \mathbb C_2$; the abuse of notation is to write $\mathbb C_1 = \mathbb C_2$. However, we have the obvious field isomorphism $$\rho : \mathbb C_2 \to \mathbb C_1, \rho(x,y) = x + iy .$$

So what can be done if we really want to be pedantic?

  • We could agree to work with two different interpretations of $\mathbb C$ when we consider functions: On the domain we use the $\mathbb C_2$ interpretation, on the codomain the $\mathbb C_1$ interpretation.
    However, in that case the definition $f'(z_0) = \lim_{z\to z_0} \dfrac{f(z) - f(z_0)}{z - z_0}$ would not make sense because numerator and denominator do not live in the same model of $\mathbb C$.

  • In the $\mathbb C_1$ interpretation we must use $\rho$ and get $f(z) = f(\rho(x,y)) = u(x,y) + iv(x,y)$. In that case the expressions $\dfrac{\partial f}{\partial x}$ and $\dfrac{\partial f}{\partial y}$ are defined as $\dfrac{\partial (f \circ \rho)}{\partial x}$ and $\dfrac{\partial (f \circ \rho)}{\partial y}$.

  • In the $\mathbb C_2$ interpretation we also must use $\rho$ and get $f(z) = f(x,y) = (u(x,y), v(x,y))$ or $f(z) = f(x,y) = \rho^{-1}(u(x,y) + iv(x,y)) = \rho^{-1}(u(z) + iv(z)) $ $= (\rho^{-1} \circ u)(z) + (0,1) (\rho^{-1} \circ v)(z) $.

I do not think that this kind of formalism makes life easier. I prefer the abuse $\mathbb C_1 = \mathbb C_2$. It does not cause any problems and everybody understands what this "streamlined" notation means.

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