Sorry to import another mathematical problem from the Digital Signal Processing domain. I will try to pose the problem using notation mostly conventional for general mathematicians, not just electrical engineers. This is a discrete-time problem (but continuous-frequency).
So we have a discrete-time sequence of real numbers:
$$ x_n \in \mathbb{R} \qquad \qquad n \in \mathbb{Z} $$
The Discrete-Time Fourier Transform (or "DTFT") is
$$X(e^{i\omega}) = \mathscr{F} \Big\{ x_n \Big\} = \sum\limits_{n=-\infty}^{\infty} x_n \, e^{-i \omega n} \qquad \qquad \omega \in \mathbb{R}$$
It's essentially just the Z-transform with $z = e^{i\omega}$. Because $x_n$ is discrete time,
$$X(e^{i(\omega+ 2\pi)} ) = X(e^{i\omega}) \qquad \qquad \forall \omega \in \mathbb{R}$$
and because $x_n$ is real,
$$X(e^{i(-\omega)}) = \overline{X(e^{i\omega})}$$
where $\overline{z}$ is the complex conjugate of $z$. So because of the periodicity in $\omega$, we will generally only worry about $-\pi < \omega \le \pi$. And the description of $X(e^{i\omega})$ for $0 \le \omega \le \pi$ is sufficient to describe the real $x_n$.
The DTFT maps functions of discrete time (or sequences) to functions of periodic continuous frequency. The inverse DTFT maps it back.
Now, the Discrete-time Hilbert Transform maps a function of discrete time to another function of discrete time:
$$\begin{align} \hat{x}_n &= \mathscr{H} \Big\{ x_n \Big\} \\ \\ &= \sum\limits_{m=-\infty}^{\infty} \frac{1-(-1)^m}{\pi \ m} \ x_{n-m} \\ \\ &= \sum\limits_{m=-\infty}^{-1} \frac{1-(-1)^m}{\pi \ m} \ x_{n-m} + \sum\limits_{m=1}^{\infty} \frac{1-(-1)^m}{\pi \ m} \ x_{n-m} \\ \\ &= \sum\limits_{m=1}^{\infty} \frac{1-(-1)^m}{\pi \ m} \ \big( x_{n-m} - \ x_{n+m} \big) \\ \end{align}$$
So we're resolving the $\frac{1-(-1)^m}{\pi \ m} \bigg|_{m=0}$ term to be zero for $m=0$. There are good reasons for this including that all other even $m$ terms in the summation are zero. So we could also say:
$$\begin{align} \hat{x}_n &= \mathscr{H}\Big\{ x_n \Big\} \\ \\ &= \sum\limits_{m=0}^{\infty} \frac{2}{\pi \ (2m+1)} \ \big( x_{n-2m-1} - \ x_{n+2m+1} \big) \\ \end{align}$$
I dunno if that's helpful or not.
Now the DTFT of the Hilbert transform of $x_n$ turns out to be:
$$\begin{align} \hat{X}(e^{i\omega}) &= \mathscr{F} \Big\{ \hat{x}_n \Big\} \\ \\ &= \sum\limits_{n=-\infty}^{\infty} \hat{x}_n \, e^{-i \omega n} \\ \\ &= -i \operatorname{sgn}(\omega) X(e^{i\omega}) \\ \\ &= \begin{cases} i X(e^{i\omega}) \qquad & -\pi < \omega < 0 \\ 0 \qquad & \omega = 0 \\ -i X(e^{i\omega}) \qquad & 0 < \omega < \pi \\ \end{cases} \\ \end{align}$$
The Hilbert transform essentially kills DC and delays every sinusoid by 90°, preserving their amplitude:
$$ \mathscr{H} \Big\{A \cos(\Omega n + \theta) \Big\} = A \sin(\Omega n + \theta) $$
Now there is one last preliminary definition. Given a real, discrete-time signal $x_n$, the complex Analytic signal is:
$$ {}^\mathrm{a}x_n = x_n + i\, \hat{x}_n $$
And the DTFT of the complex analytic signal is
$$\begin{align} {}^\mathrm{a}X(e^{i\omega}) = \mathscr{F} \Big\{ {}^\mathrm{a}x_n \Big\} &= \big(1 + \operatorname{sgn}(\omega) \big) X(e^{i\omega}) \\ \\ &= \begin{cases} 0 \qquad \qquad & -\pi < \omega < 0 \\ X(e^{i\omega}) \qquad \qquad & \omega = 0 \\ 2 X(e^{i\omega}) \qquad \qquad & 0 < \omega < \pi \\ \end{cases} \end{align}$$
These are all the preliminary definitions and relationships.
So the specific question I have to ask stems from this question and solution in the DSP Stack Exchange regarding deriving the Instantaneous frequency of an arbitrary real discrete-time signal $x_n$.
We know that when $x_n$ is a general sinusoid (having $0<\Omega<\pi$):
$$\begin{align} x_n &= A \cos(\Omega n + \theta) \\ \\ &= \frac{A}{2}\big( e^{i(\Omega n + \theta)} + e^{-i(\Omega n + \theta)} \big) \\ \end{align}$$
that the Hilbert transform will be:
$$\begin{align} \hat{x}_n &= A \sin(\Omega n + \theta) \\ \\ &= \frac{A}{2i}\big( e^{i(\Omega n + \theta)} - e^{-i(\Omega n + \theta)} \big) \\ \end{align}$$
and the analytic signal will be:
$$ {}^\mathrm{a}x_n = A \, e^{i(\Omega n + \theta)} $$
The instantaneous phase is defined to be the angle ($\arg\{\cdot\}$) of the complex analytic function:
$$ \phi_n = \arg \big\{ {}^\mathrm{a}x_n \big\}$$
which for the general sinusoid above is $ \phi_n = \Omega n + \theta$.
And the instantaneous frequency (a function of discrete-time $n$) is defined to be the rate of increment of the properly unwrapped phase:
$$\begin{align} \Omega_n &= \phi_n - \phi_{n-1} \\ \\ &= \arg\big\{ {}^\mathrm{a}x_n \big\} - \arg\big\{ {}^\mathrm{a}x_{n-1} \big\} \\ \\ &= \arg\left\{ \frac{ {}^\mathrm{a}x_n }{ {}^\mathrm{a}x_{n-1} } \right\} \\ \\ &= \arg\left\{ \frac{ {}^\mathrm{a}x_n \, \overline{{}^\mathrm{a}x_{n-1}} }{ {}^\mathrm{a}x_{n-1} \, \overline{{}^\mathrm{a}x_{n-1}}} \right\} \\ \\ &= \arg\left\{ \frac{ {}^\mathrm{a}x_n \, \overline{{}^\mathrm{a}x_{n-1}} }{ \big| {}^\mathrm{a}x_{n-1} \big|^2 } \right\} \\ \\ &= \arg\left\{ {}^\mathrm{a}x_n \, \overline{{}^\mathrm{a}x_{n-1}} \right\} \\ \\ &= \arg\left\{ \big(x_n + i\, \hat{x}_n\big) \big(x_{n-1} - i\, \hat{x}_{n-1}\big) \right\} \\ \\ &= \arg\left\{ x_n x_{n-1} + \hat{x}_n \hat{x}_{n-1} + i\big(\hat{x}_n x_{n-1} - x_n \hat{x}_{n-1}\big) \right\} \\ \end{align} $$
Now we really expect $0 < \Omega_n < \pi$ to be positive because there are no frequency components in the analytic signal ${}^\mathrm{a}x_n$ that are negative frequency (at least no components of ${}^\mathrm{a}X(e^{i\omega})=\mathscr{F} \big\{ {}^\mathrm{a}x_n \big\}$ in the interval $-\pi < \omega < 0$).
If we can know that $0 < \Omega_n < \pi$, then we need only the second case (quadrants I and II) for the $\arg\{\cdot\}$ operator. For both $u, v \in \mathbb{R}$,
$$ \arg\big\{ w \big\} = \arg \big\{ u \, + \, i \, v \big\} = \begin{cases} \arctan\left(\frac{v}{u}\right) &\text{if } u > 0, \\ \frac{\pi}{2} - \arctan\left(\frac{u}{v}\right) &\text{if } v > 0, \\ -\frac{\pi}{2} - \arctan\left(\frac{u}{v}\right) &\text{if } v < 0, \\ \arctan\left(\frac{v}{u}\right) \pm \pi &\text{if } u < 0, \\ \text{undefined} &\text{if } u = 0 \text{ and } v = 0 \end{cases} $$
Then, if we know that $v = \hat{x}_n x_{n-1} - x_n \hat{x}_{n-1} > 0$, then
$$ \boxed{ \Omega_n = \frac{\pi}{2} - \arctan\left( \frac{x_n x_{n-1} + \hat{x}_n \hat{x}_{n-1}}{\hat{x}_n x_{n-1} - x_n \hat{x}_{n-1}} \right) } $$
and we know that $0 < \Omega_n < \pi$. (!)
But do we know that?
So given any real, discrete-time sequence $x_n$ (not entirely zero nor any constant function and not necessarily a single sinusoid) and its Hilbert transform
$$\begin{align} \hat{x}_n &= \mathscr{H} \Big\{ x_n \Big\} \\ \\ &= \sum\limits_{m=-\infty}^{\infty} \frac{1-(-1)^m}{\pi \ m} \ x_{n-m} \\ \\ &= \sum\limits_{m=0}^{\infty} \frac{2}{\pi \ (2m+1)} \ \big( x_{n-2m-1} - \ x_{n+2m+1} \big) \\ \end{align}$$
How can we show that $\hat{x}_n x_{n-1} - x_n \hat{x}_{n-1} > 0$? Or that
$$\begin{align} x_n \hat{x}_{n-1} &< \hat{x}_n x_{n-1} \qquad \qquad \forall n \in \mathbb{Z} \\ \\ x_n \sum\limits_{m=-\infty}^{\infty} \frac{1-(-1)^m}{\pi \ m} \ x_{n-1-m} &< x_{n-1} \sum\limits_{m=-\infty}^{\infty} \frac{1-(-1)^m}{\pi \ m} \ x_{n-m} \\ \\ x_n \sum\limits_{m=0}^{\infty} \frac{2}{\pi \ (2m+1)} \ \big( x_{n-2m-2} - \ x_{n+2m} \big) &< x_{n-1} \sum\limits_{m=0}^{\infty} \frac{2}{\pi \ (2m+1)} \ \big( x_{n-2m-1} - \ x_{n+2m+1} \big) \\ \\ x_n \sum\limits_{m=0}^{\infty} \frac{1}{2m+1} \ \big( x_{n-2m-2} - \ x_{n+2m} \big) &< x_{n-1} \sum\limits_{m=0}^{\infty} \frac{1}{2m+1} \ \big( x_{n-2m-1} - \ x_{n+2m+1} \big) \\ \\ \sum\limits_{m=0}^{\infty} \frac{x_n x_{n-2m-2} - \ x_n x_{n+2m}}{2m+1} &< \sum\limits_{m=0}^{\infty} \frac{x_{n-1} x_{n-2m-1} - \ x_{n-1} x_{n+2m+1}}{2m+1} \qquad \forall n \in \mathbb{Z} \\ \end{align}$$
or $$0 < \sum\limits_{m=0}^{\infty} \frac{x_{n-1} x_{n-2m-1} - \ x_{n-1} x_{n+2m+1} - x_n x_{n-2m-2} + \ x_n x_{n+2m}}{2m+1} \qquad \forall n \in \mathbb{Z} $$
How can I prove that this is true for a nearly arbitrary (not constant) real infinite sequence $x_n$? Or a good counter example to disprove it?
I can show it's true for a general sinusoid $x_n = A \cos(\Omega n + \theta)$ when $0<\Omega<\pi$. I know it's not true for $x_n=\mathrm{constant}$ (that's $\Omega=0$) or $x_n=(-1)^n$ (that's $\Omega=\pi$) or any linear combination because the Hilbert transform $\hat{x}_n=0$ (signals at DC or Nyquist are known to be funky), but I dunno how to deal with this for a virtually general real $x_n$. What conditions on $x_n$ guarantee this to be true? Or to be false?
Okay, I have started a bounty and I will attempt again to state the question/problem unambiguously.
Given any sequence of finite real numbers:
$$ x_n \in \mathbb{R} \qquad \qquad n \in \mathbb{Z} $$
except those sequences having this form:
$$ x_n = a + b(-1)^n \qquad \qquad a,b \in \mathbb{R} $$
what conditions on $x_n$ are necessary so that this inequality is satisfied:
$$ x_n \sum\limits_{m=0}^{\infty} \frac{2}{\pi \ (2m+1)} \ \big( x_{n-2m-2} - \ x_{n+2m} \big) < x_{n-1} \sum\limits_{m=0}^{\infty} \frac{2}{\pi \ (2m+1)} \ \big( x_{n-2m-1} - \ x_{n+2m+1} \big) \qquad \forall n \in \mathbb{Z} $$
?
$$x_n \sum\limits_{m=0}^{\infty} \frac{2}{\pi \ (2m+1)} \ \big( x_{n-2m-2} - \ x_{n+2m} \big) < x_{n-1} \sum\limits_{m=0}^{\infty} \frac{2}{\pi \ (2m+1)} \ \big( x_{n-2m-1} - \ x_{n+2m+1} \big) $$
?
– robert bristow-johnson Oct 09 '25 at 04:10$$x_n x_{n-2m-2} + x_{n-1} x_{n+2m+1} < x_{n-1} x_{n-2m-1} + x_n x_{n+2m}$$ ?
Probably not.
– robert bristow-johnson Oct 09 '25 at 04:18